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i think the caller is right certainly in the case of pakistan and afghanistan. the united states lost sight of the importance of the region after the soviet the feet. certainly, i would hope there would be a sustained engagement that would be based on mutual respect and upon the principles that we mentioned earlier. with regards to what he mentioned about dealings in pakistan and elsewhere towards the united states, people in the middle east largely very much admire the united states for its educational institutions, the level of economic development, the basic rule of law, and so on. they were to come here, a study here, emigrate here, but there critical of some american policies. that is really the issue. we know what those policies are. host: last couple of calls. bloomington, illinois. caller: first of all, i just want to respond to the caller that the military saved muslims in southeast europe in kosovo. here is my question regarding europe. are there any elements in the arab spring in north africa that wants to integrate with europe? maybe in the future jo
i think the caller is right certainly in the case of pakistan and afghanistan. the united states lost sight of the importance of the region after the soviet the feet. certainly, i would hope there would be a sustained engagement that would be based on mutual respect and upon the principles that we mentioned earlier. with regards to what he mentioned about dealings in pakistan and elsewhere towards the united states, people in the middle east largely very much admire the united states for its...
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threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and effectively helping to kill americans and other nato forces there. what are they saying about that? >> well, wolf, it doesn't make sense when you look ate from an american perspective. when i was in pakistan earlier this year, pakistani officials are very concerned about two things. they feel a threat from india. they're worried about the indians having influence in afghanistan. there are some elements within pakistan that use these insurgents in afghanistan as sort of a check on india's power there. they don't like this idea of this rival india having influence
threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and...
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but those ied blasts, especially in afghanistan and in pakistan may groove to be critical, because again, a bomb maker leaves a signature. most bomb makers continue to make their bombs the same way until they are either killed or caught. so they're going to look to see if this matches any of the information that may be in that very classified u.s. database on bomb makers around the world. wolf? >> when you get more information, let us know, barbara, thank very much. and to our viewer, stand by for all breaking news on the deadly attacks in norway. we're not leaving the story for long. we're watching president obama, trying to pull voters into the debt limit drama as the clock winds down. we're taking a closer look at where the talks stand right now. and the long distance message he's sending republicans. and the people turn against a powerful and feared state legislature who pushed for the toughest immigration laws the nation has ever seen. stay with us. the chevy cruze eco offers an epa estimated 42 miles per gallon on the highway. how does it do that? well, to get there, a lot of compl
but those ied blasts, especially in afghanistan and in pakistan may groove to be critical, because again, a bomb maker leaves a signature. most bomb makers continue to make their bombs the same way until they are either killed or caught. so they're going to look to see if this matches any of the information that may be in that very classified u.s. database on bomb makers around the world. wolf? >> when you get more information, let us know, barbara, thank very much. and to our viewer,...
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in addition to the war in pakistan and libya and iraq and yemen, now the secret ops branch of the military is launching kind of secret drone strikes somalia. what's secret, disclosed, military, intelligence, is quite blurred. cia guy, you run the pentagon. pentagon guy, you run the military. what's the difference? unanimous decision. really big story here, though. the really big gap between the noncontroversy in washington, the lack of political debate about this big picture here, and how unpopular that big picture is in the rest of the country. the hill newspaper released a poll last week showing 72% of the american people think we are involved in too many foreign conflicts overseas, and americans favor removing the u.s. military from afghanistan. 66% of americans oppose the war in iraq. and the public in large part opposes military intervention in libya as well. and in that sort of environment, we confirmed a new cia director and new leader of pentagon with zero did i sent. not to say that these guys personally embody the problem, but where's the debate on this problem? at a time when al
in addition to the war in pakistan and libya and iraq and yemen, now the secret ops branch of the military is launching kind of secret drone strikes somalia. what's secret, disclosed, military, intelligence, is quite blurred. cia guy, you run the pentagon. pentagon guy, you run the military. what's the difference? unanimous decision. really big story here, though. the really big gap between the noncontroversy in washington, the lack of political debate about this big picture here, and how...
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even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet. more twists in the road ahead, and we'll tell you why. overhe south pific in 1943 vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your t
even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet....
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pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures where you can turn the aid back on. >> so how do they get there, fran? is this simply a slap on the wrist or is it a real threat by the obama administration, that, look, they are fed up with pakistan and they are not going to deal with them in the same way? >> no, it's much more than a mere slap on the wrist? i don't think the administration wanted to find themselves having to get to the point. there's tremendous public pressure and congress for them to use this, and the problem is it's one of national pride. what you are seeing is pak
pakistan if they lose $800 million? what does it mean with their willingness or ability to beat al qaeda? >> well, there have been tensioned that were trying to be managed across three administrations, including the current one, and even this administration was trying not to use the aid as a lever. you deny them activities you want them to undertake. this is not a good place to be for either country. they create a path agreed upon by both sides where there are confidence building measures...
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>> gregg: the killing of osama bin laden has certainly hurt the al-qaeda terrorist organization, in pakistan and afghanistan. but anwar al-awlaki is alive and well in yemen and he is planning additional attacks against americans. is the franchise there now the lead in al-qaeda and how dangerous and what can we do? >> al-qaeda is somewhat diffuse in the islamist most of the time. yemen a fertile ground. it does seem to be emerging as headquarters of sorts. yemen as a state doesn't exist right now. it was an iffy topic when it had a president but it essentially doesn't right now. so al-qaeda finding an open door. president obama came out and said the tide of war is receding but nobody gave that message to the islamist terrorists. we this had the christmas day bombing, not the one on the flight but the on other one on fed ex shipments. >> gregg: speaking of terrorists let's talk about libya and moammar khadafy who says he is willing to talk to america but he refuses to give up his position. so what is the point of talking to the guy? >> this has been going for five months. people have said that
>> gregg: the killing of osama bin laden has certainly hurt the al-qaeda terrorist organization, in pakistan and afghanistan. but anwar al-awlaki is alive and well in yemen and he is planning additional attacks against americans. is the franchise there now the lead in al-qaeda and how dangerous and what can we do? >> al-qaeda is somewhat diffuse in the islamist most of the time. yemen a fertile ground. it does seem to be emerging as headquarters of sorts. yemen as a state doesn't...
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and pakistan. the pakinstani government now banning u.s. diplomats from leaving the capitol city without getting special permission first. the announcement made in a letter sent to the u.s. embassy in islamabad, the 1961 agreement allows them to move freely. the u.s. is working with pakistan to try to resolve this issue. >> arthel: a texas gun store's phone has been ringing off the hook since some quick thinking employees likely prevented a deadly attack. greg ebert of guns galore called police to report a suspicious customer last week. that customer was arrested the very next day, just miles from the fort hood army base with materials that could be used to make bombs. ever since, he and his co-workers have been getting inundated with phone calls, thanking them for their vigilance. guns galore is the same shop where nidal malik hasan purchased a weapon before opening fire on fort hood in 2009. >>> a gun heist in california, more than two dozen assault rifles ripped off from a supply store in fort irwin. it happened july 15. investigators sa
and pakistan. the pakinstani government now banning u.s. diplomats from leaving the capitol city without getting special permission first. the announcement made in a letter sent to the u.s. embassy in islamabad, the 1961 agreement allows them to move freely. the u.s. is working with pakistan to try to resolve this issue. >> arthel: a texas gun store's phone has been ringing off the hook since some quick thinking employees likely prevented a deadly attack. greg ebert of guns galore called...
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pakistan, not happy. now, not long after that, pakistan threw out all of the meamerican and british military trainers working with the armed forces, the u.s. this time. not happy. last week, mike mullen accused the government knowing all about the murder of a journalist critical of the government. pakistan denies that and isn't happy. fast forward -- the white house confirms $800 million, more than a third here, a third of the united states annual anti-terrorism aid package to pakistan will be stopped. this is how president obama's chief of staff describes the relationship. and i want you to listen very closely for one word, bill dailey uses more than once. >> complicated relationship and a very difficult complicated part of the world. there's still a lot of pain that the political system in pakistan is feeling by virtue of the raid that we did to get osama bin laden. something that the president felt strongly about. we have no regrets over. but the pakistani relationship is difficult but it must be made
pakistan, not happy. now, not long after that, pakistan threw out all of the meamerican and british military trainers working with the armed forces, the u.s. this time. not happy. last week, mike mullen accused the government knowing all about the murder of a journalist critical of the government. pakistan denies that and isn't happy. fast forward -- the white house confirms $800 million, more than a third here, a third of the united states annual anti-terrorism aid package to pakistan will be...
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and pakistan. the government said diplomats will have to apply for special permission to leave and it is an unusual move for countries with open diplomatic relations. >> our top stories around the world in 80 seconds . veit -- viet nam. flames killing 72 people. the cause a welder parking roofing insulation. the material fell and blocked to the floor and trapping workers inside. >> south korea. regions devastated by land slide and rebuilding after days of rain. it is the heaviest downpour in a century. construction crews installeding guard rails in major highways and entire apartment blocks in ruins. australia, locals protesting an american run beauty pageant with contestants two months old. the event sexualizes children. one government official is not to please. >> i feel the mede. >>> and participants say the pageant is harmless. >> uk and zarya philips. queen elizabeth's grand daughter maring the rug bee player . there for the wedding is william and kate. it was not even broadcast on tv. that is
and pakistan. the government said diplomats will have to apply for special permission to leave and it is an unusual move for countries with open diplomatic relations. >> our top stories around the world in 80 seconds . veit -- viet nam. flames killing 72 people. the cause a welder parking roofing insulation. the material fell and blocked to the floor and trapping workers inside. >> south korea. regions devastated by land slide and rebuilding after days of rain. it is the heaviest...
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he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his medical conditions he could get into the tribal areas. it helped us on drone strikes. started to get us very close to thinking we could take out senior al qaeda leaders. his information was really good. >> very quickly, you just said nobody had ever seen him, is that how he was able to infiltrate that base? >> when you have a good agent you go to all kind measures to protect his identity. they didn't want anybody to see him. everything was focused on trying to get in man into a cia base before anybody could see him. he had three layers of security without being searched until he was within the presence of a cia officer and then he blew up a 30 pound bomb on his chest. >> a stunning defeat for the cia. >> the book is stunning. good luck with the book. thanks for joining us. >> gone without a trace, the investigation into the disappearance of a 9-
he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his medical conditions he could get into the tribal areas. it helped us on drone strikes. started to get us very close to thinking we could take out senior al qaeda leaders. his information was really good. >> very quickly, you just said nobody had ever seen him, is that how he...
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and pakistan. >> give the pakistan government the drones. that is the way it should be. [unintelligible] >> the dispute shows no sign of easing. islamabad is threatening to pull its soldiers out of the region along the border. >> human rights groups say more than 1300 people may have been killed when an arms depot blew up in turkmenistan last week. the blast was outside of the capital. the government initially blamed the fire at a fireworks storage facility. officials from the country say only 15 people were killed. the country's exiled opposition has posted images of the explosion, saying the true death toll is much higher. news corporation owner billionaire rupert murdoch has agreed to give evidence next tuesday to a british parliamentary committee investigating illegal activities at his british newspapers. murdoch and his son james will appear with rebecca brooks, the chief ceo of the british newspaper branch. she is also the former chief editor of "the news of the world," the tabloid which closed in the face of mounting evidence that it and other newspapers gained in
and pakistan. >> give the pakistan government the drones. that is the way it should be. [unintelligible] >> the dispute shows no sign of easing. islamabad is threatening to pull its soldiers out of the region along the border. >> human rights groups say more than 1300 people may have been killed when an arms depot blew up in turkmenistan last week. the blast was outside of the capital. the government initially blamed the fire at a fireworks storage facility. officials from the...
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the pact allows the group to use it as a transit point for moving money and fighters to the bases in pakistan and afghanistan. let's get to part of what the "wall street journal" said. the quote reads they outlined what they said was a fund-raising operation that uses iran-based operatives and draws from donors in persian gulf companies. the treasury said they sanctioned six for allegedly overseeing this network. >> how concerned are you when you hear this report and what does this mean? >> it's difficult to understand at first. you look at what happens and you see militias confronting al qaeda and a lot of people die. it's difficult to imagine the allies. what's amazing is there has been evidence and through other sources that does tend to confirm the fact that iran is a major location from money laundering and cross transit into afghanistan. it is operating as a portal for the taliban and al qaeda. why is iran doing this? probably not for idea logical reasons. they wanted to reach a deal and ever since then they have been holding this issue. there have been high ranking members that are all
the pact allows the group to use it as a transit point for moving money and fighters to the bases in pakistan and afghanistan. let's get to part of what the "wall street journal" said. the quote reads they outlined what they said was a fund-raising operation that uses iran-based operatives and draws from donors in persian gulf companies. the treasury said they sanctioned six for allegedly overseeing this network. >> how concerned are you when you hear this report and what does...
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al qaeda was dismantled and settled in waziristan and pakistan. this is not a nation-building exercise. this encounter terror exercise. we do not need 100,000 troops on the ground at the cost we are paying today in order to get the job done. [applause] and i am here to tell you that the future of the u.s. is not going to be determined in the prairies of afghanistan. the future of the u.s., whether you want to recognize it or not, is going to be determined by how well prepared we are to compete in a highly competitive 20th -- 20 per century, and that battle is going to be waged across the -- 21st century, and that battle is going to be waged across the ocean. as you walk off of this building, i want you to remember why we are in this race. it is about the generation behind us and the condition they will find our nation in. it is totally unsustainable, the debt trajectory that we are on. and number two, the reality of launching a new industrial revolution, it is within our grasp. it has happened before in our nation's history. problem-solving people
al qaeda was dismantled and settled in waziristan and pakistan. this is not a nation-building exercise. this encounter terror exercise. we do not need 100,000 troops on the ground at the cost we are paying today in order to get the job done. [applause] and i am here to tell you that the future of the u.s. is not going to be determined in the prairies of afghanistan. the future of the u.s., whether you want to recognize it or not, is going to be determined by how well prepared we are to compete...
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and pakistan have hit the bottom line. white house chief of staff william daly confirms usa aid to pakistan is being withheld pending better behavior out of islamabad. >> right now they have taken some steps that give us reason to pause on some of the aid we were giving to their mill tashgs and we're trying to work through that. but until we get through these difficulties, we will hold back some of the money that the american taxpayers have committed to giving them. >> some $800 million. >> yes. >> in advance of tonight's debt-reduction meeting at the white house, the obama administration sent out treasury secretary timothy geithner for yet another red alert about what will happen if p congress fails to raise the debt ceiling. >> no responsible leader would say the united states, for the first time in its history, should not pay its bills and meet its obligations. that would be catastrophic for the economy. everybody understands that. >> senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says he's for a big deal as long as it doesn'
and pakistan have hit the bottom line. white house chief of staff william daly confirms usa aid to pakistan is being withheld pending better behavior out of islamabad. >> right now they have taken some steps that give us reason to pause on some of the aid we were giving to their mill tashgs and we're trying to work through that. but until we get through these difficulties, we will hold back some of the money that the american taxpayers have committed to giving them. >> some $800...
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particularly in places like somalia and pakistan. what's driving them to join these organizations is not cartoons. it's irresponsible parents who are trying to put their own political ideals in their kids. that's what we should be going after. not the cartoons. >> remember in the israeli-palestinian conflict when it was said the conflict itself would never end until moms loved their children more than they hated the israelis. i think in this case with al qaeda, much the same could be said. >> yep. that's true. >> thanks. >>> congress is still trying to negotiate a deal on the debt ceiling. there have been warnings about the impact on the u.s. economy. but it will also have an impact on you and your town. >>> plus an update on the memphis school shutdown over a $55 million tab. the city sent the school system $3 million so far. will the doors open on august 8th as planned? i talk with both sides of that debate. ben and his family live on this block. ben's a re/max agent, and he's a big part of this community. re/max agents know their
particularly in places like somalia and pakistan. what's driving them to join these organizations is not cartoons. it's irresponsible parents who are trying to put their own political ideals in their kids. that's what we should be going after. not the cartoons. >> remember in the israeli-palestinian conflict when it was said the conflict itself would never end until moms loved their children more than they hated the israelis. i think in this case with al qaeda, much the same could be...
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slapping sanctions on six iranians accusing them to working with al qaeda to funnel money and insurgens to pakistan. >>> a top chander and aides kr wild when a car bomb went off. >>> released from the hospital after a severe asthma attack. >>> and a former pitcher found dead today in los angeles, the victim of an apparent suicide. >>> i'm veronica della cruz, let's get balk to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." what a night it is. the house of representatives is expected to vote on john boehner's deal. the vote is delayed. no word when it will take place and the best guess, no, he doesn't have the votes he needs to pass the bill and send it to the senate. msnbc will, of course, bring you the vote when it happens or bring you the speeches before the vote. in his debt ceiling vote, president obama angered republicans being unwilling to compromise. how has president obama fared in the fight? michael steele is here not exactly as a judge but a commentator. and msnbc contributor, and ron reagan's here. the youthful, forever youthful ron reagan, stressed in youthful attire wearing the threads of youth.
slapping sanctions on six iranians accusing them to working with al qaeda to funnel money and insurgens to pakistan. >>> a top chander and aides kr wild when a car bomb went off. >>> released from the hospital after a severe asthma attack. >>> and a former pitcher found dead today in los angeles, the victim of an apparent suicide. >>> i'm veronica della cruz, let's get balk to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." what a night it...
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that come from pakistan into afghanistan. most of them are used for commerce. they trade a lot back and forth here. they are moving farther into kabul or other major cities. they use this to bring in other weapons and equipment to attack coalition forces. this is the biggest city in the area. it has the most populous. this is a center for trading and, in the area. paktika province province -- places like paktika province, where nato has not had much of a presence until recently, these are the border provinces that have not had nato troops until the past year. the population is not very friendly to the coalition. so, the population will harbor fighters, all will harbert weapons for them, and is aware of -- will harbor weapons for them, and is aware of taliban movements. they will target in a sense the civilian population. they do not started them with violence. but you have to go visiting houses. you have to go to the compounds. you have to march out and start knocking on doors, demanding to be let in, and basically demanded "if you do not let newtonian, nato wi
that come from pakistan into afghanistan. most of them are used for commerce. they trade a lot back and forth here. they are moving farther into kabul or other major cities. they use this to bring in other weapons and equipment to attack coalition forces. this is the biggest city in the area. it has the most populous. this is a center for trading and, in the area. paktika province province -- places like paktika province, where nato has not had much of a presence until recently, these are the...
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are coping in the aftermath. -- a year after devastating rains ravage pakistan. one country right and the heart of europe appears to be a new to the currency crisis. switzerland's fanc is riding high and has become a safe haven for investors. >> this is a landscape that has attracted tourists for over a century. this year, visitors are staying on the ground. those that are here are counting their pennies. as the euro slides, the swiss franc rises and rises. foreign tourists find switzerland too expensive. meanwhile, the swiss are neglecting their on resorts in favor of a cheap holiday abroad. >> i am watching the situation with enormous concern. things have gotten worse. jobs and businesses are really in danger now and that is bad for our economy. >> the swiss franc is at an all- time high against the euro. a new study shows that a thousand hotels across the alps are threatened with closure. >> there will be job cuts. there has already been. each of the hotels have had to cut back from jobs. >> swiss hotel owners are looking anxiously to the government for soluti
are coping in the aftermath. -- a year after devastating rains ravage pakistan. one country right and the heart of europe appears to be a new to the currency crisis. switzerland's fanc is riding high and has become a safe haven for investors. >> this is a landscape that has attracted tourists for over a century. this year, visitors are staying on the ground. those that are here are counting their pennies. as the euro slides, the swiss franc rises and rises. foreign tourists find...
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on pakistan so. i don't think we can just very briefly please we're talking live in mumbai obviously these are events are unfolding at the moment this could be the start of many more explosions tell us what is it like to be there at the moment how the emergency services what's the mood like is there panic there in the streets in mumbai just briefly. then again he's been he didn't do the simple big yahoo because. it was full of i knew the last twenty years. you know that but he was. the head of the speedometer. and he does the and i'm the. straight maker that i should look asian and i was really. really good. to be here yet who gives. a three star. or a fish to town thanks very much indeed investigations editor with the to help weekly magazine live there in mumbai. other news now this hour rupert murdoch's media empire has announced it's to withdraw its bid to buy outright control of the u.k.'s biggest satellite broadcaster b. sky b. it's the latest twist to the phone hacking crisis that's engulfed th
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a bunch in pakistan. you mention pakistan. what they'd be any links to told with that group who were held responsible for the hotel bombings back in two thousand and eight when something like on from eighty people were killed there would there be links perhaps between those two organizations yes absolutely they had dearly could you have been back. if you remember any pakistani would be in who had infiltrated mumbai they claim concerns to be deprived of bacon would have been trying to. portray themselves as indians that do a part of the deccan mujahedeen it's a document you can actually comes from an indian would be less spin it does not has been the chilling this gentleman doing in which i had been able to lie seven eight years there have been providing logistical interventions uplift there have been trade. secret better hide out in pakistan and a lot of them to come back into india and then the remaining text or the dick or the emails is big boxes back in pakistan and getting them concluded by them and plan to get a strike by
a bunch in pakistan. you mention pakistan. what they'd be any links to told with that group who were held responsible for the hotel bombings back in two thousand and eight when something like on from eighty people were killed there would there be links perhaps between those two organizations yes absolutely they had dearly could you have been back. if you remember any pakistani would be in who had infiltrated mumbai they claim concerns to be deprived of bacon would have been trying to. portray...
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during my detention in pakistan. they asked me if i will go with the song and he did and it was not interested on me it was you transferred to kind of hall in afghanistan what happened there. in common was happening. all kinds of things what you can just imagine on the thoughts. and. on myself i saw many people got killed on the torture and on the saw. i was one of those who survived those kind of closure on myself they used electroshocks because i will not sign papers. i was forced to agree that i am the member of ironic and i was not even really i didn't know at the time what used to be i didn't know a lot i did anything so. when they asked me what i thought i didn't tell you and i said i'm not a member and they brought your papers cost me to sign i refused and that's why they tortured me by they forced me to write me to sign and make them sign by electoral electroshocks and. in other times he forced me by water treatment it's called waterboarding it's not it's. there it's normally on the water boarding so or anoth
during my detention in pakistan. they asked me if i will go with the song and he did and it was not interested on me it was you transferred to kind of hall in afghanistan what happened there. in common was happening. all kinds of things what you can just imagine on the thoughts. and. on myself i saw many people got killed on the torture and on the saw. i was one of those who survived those kind of closure on myself they used electroshocks because i will not sign papers. i was forced to agree...
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when my detention in pakistan. they asked me if i want more with someone and they didn't there was not interested on me off there was you were transferred to kind of hall in afghanistan what happened there. in qana was happening. all kind of things like you can just imagine on the culture and. on myself i saw many people got killed on the torture and comma so. i was one of those who survived those kind of closure on myself they used electroshocks because i will not sign papers and. i was forced to agree that i may be a member or are you going to go and. i'm not even really i didn't know at the time what used to be i didn't know a lot i tried anything so. when they asked me what i thought of and i said i'm not a number of them and they brought me papers cross me to sign i refused and that's why they tortured me about their forcing me to write me to sign making sign by electoral electroshocks and. in other times he forced me by water treatment a lot of boarding the smith it's. really it's known on the water boarding
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one of the main reasons for the for the continuation of violent activity on the pakistan of gonna stand border is the mess that the us military has created inside of coniston over the past decade the mass there the way they have alienated a large portion segment of the afghan population in terms of the push to try to the way they have conducted the war on terror there the way they have alienated a large pockets really of the country is a big reason for why we have a country new mission of violence in afghanistan and how that violence is spilling over into pakistan and most pakistani commentators believe now that one of the ways short short cuts really to controlling violence and extremism on the pakistan afghanistan border is really to end the war on terror the way the u.s. military and the way the cia has been conducting this war over the past ten years one step forward is of course what president obama has declared but you still words were get to see really actions on the ground and we have yet to see whether important agencies within the u.s. government like the central intelligence
one of the main reasons for the for the continuation of violent activity on the pakistan of gonna stand border is the mess that the us military has created inside of coniston over the past decade the mass there the way they have alienated a large portion segment of the afghan population in terms of the push to try to the way they have conducted the war on terror there the way they have alienated a large pockets really of the country is a big reason for why we have a country new mission of...
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is being urged to abandon an air base it's been using in pakistan. but greece was not the only country to be hit by protests this week as u.k. public sector workers took part in a national day of strikes on thursday hundreds of thousands of teachers and civil servants a voice their discontent with government plans to change their pensions half of the country's state schools were closed down destruction was caused to air traffic during the biggest industrial action in decades artie's lore and it has the story. down tools up with industrial action and all some of discontent starts here this time it's the public sector workers walking out unhappy with the planned reform of their pensions which they say will see them paying a lot more and getting a lot less likely seeing a mock up it. looks like i'm not familiar with that seat will be back if it can make a quick fix if it changes that it may consider pensions or very necessary state is a way to address it so i think we do need to make cutbacks in fair things are being . claimed by the teacher pages by si
is being urged to abandon an air base it's been using in pakistan. but greece was not the only country to be hit by protests this week as u.k. public sector workers took part in a national day of strikes on thursday hundreds of thousands of teachers and civil servants a voice their discontent with government plans to change their pensions half of the country's state schools were closed down destruction was caused to air traffic during the biggest industrial action in decades artie's lore and it...
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in his criticism of washington how is this going to go down in pakistan. well i must tell you there's. a ten years ago. it was really very hard to find a clean clean sheet in pakistan criticizing the united states it was it was taken for granted if you're criticizing the u.s. you must be some radical extremist but today you have people from the upper classes of pakistan really lead and very very critical of the united states so i think there's something really wrong and i think. responsibility also on the on the u.s. media to convey the right church to the american people you know which is unfortunately they're not doing very much telling the whatever. line of the government so i think i don't see in the near future many of these serious differences between pakistan and the united states. or i could have the two in this week ratio and one from islam about thanks for an autopsy. so look at some of the stories now the stories that shaped the week from out say of the former pows general accused of ordering the massacre is likely to have a new legal team to re
in his criticism of washington how is this going to go down in pakistan. well i must tell you there's. a ten years ago. it was really very hard to find a clean clean sheet in pakistan criticizing the united states it was it was taken for granted if you're criticizing the u.s. you must be some radical extremist but today you have people from the upper classes of pakistan really lead and very very critical of the united states so i think there's something really wrong and i think. responsibility...
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when i went to pakistan i went to that to their school of jamaat to be they have each year i guess between thirty and forty solvent.
when i went to pakistan i went to that to their school of jamaat to be they have each year i guess between thirty and forty solvent.
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that washington must be held to account for its operations in pakistan. thus far these drones have been operating in pakistan in the federal federal administrated tribal areas fata they've been operating in secret by the cia and they've been killing indiscriminately hundreds of civilians since although the purpose of this is this hopefully to gets a transparency out of out of the cia and out of obama and to to get some justice on behalf of the victims of these drone strikes as we know the u.s. is not in a war in pakistan the usa is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering the information who are doing the investigation to try to collect the information so that we can br
that washington must be held to account for its operations in pakistan. thus far these drones have been operating in pakistan in the federal federal administrated tribal areas fata they've been operating in secret by the cia and they've been killing indiscriminately hundreds of civilians since although the purpose of this is this hopefully to gets a transparency out of out of the cia and out of obama and to to get some justice on behalf of the victims of these drone strikes as we know the u.s....
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during my detention in pakistan. they asked me if i want more with someone and he didn't he was not interested on me afterwards you were transferred to kind of hole in afghanistan what happened there in kandahar. income was happening. all kinds of things like you can just imagine on the closure and. on myself i saw many people got killed on the torture in qana so. i was one of those who survived those kind of closure on myself they used electroshocks because i will not sign papers you know. i was forced to agree that i'm the member or are you going to go and. i'm not even really i didn't know at the time what used to be i didn't know what i did anything so. when they asked me what i tried and thought even i said i'm not a member of them and they brought me papers wasn't a sign i refused and that's why they tortured me about their forced me to write me to sign and sign by electoral electroshocks and. in other times the force made by what the treatment it's for a lot a lot of boarding it's not it's. there it's normally
during my detention in pakistan. they asked me if i want more with someone and he didn't he was not interested on me afterwards you were transferred to kind of hole in afghanistan what happened there in kandahar. income was happening. all kinds of things like you can just imagine on the closure and. on myself i saw many people got killed on the torture in qana so. i was one of those who survived those kind of closure on myself they used electroshocks because i will not sign papers you know. i...
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policy from the unilateral troublemaking in afghanistan and pakistan to a comprehensive regional policy we have the shanghai cooperation organization as being the true and reliable partner for the united states instead of nato that who provided the brand new opportunities both for united states pakistan and its neighbors to jumpstart totally new regional security policies that will benefit to all parties concerned now let's take a look at some of the stories from around the world. birds are on their way in thailand to form a new coalition government which will bring the country's first ever female prime minister to power that's after the opposition party won a landslide victory in sunday's general election taney a clear majority of seats in the parliament its leader forty four year old. is the sister of the country's exiled leader toppled in an army coup five years ago it's hoped the election and the country's long running political crisis. the ailing venezuelan president hugo chavez may stay in cuba for cancer treatment for up to half a year it's already almost a month since he arrived
policy from the unilateral troublemaking in afghanistan and pakistan to a comprehensive regional policy we have the shanghai cooperation organization as being the true and reliable partner for the united states instead of nato that who provided the brand new opportunities both for united states pakistan and its neighbors to jumpstart totally new regional security policies that will benefit to all parties concerned now let's take a look at some of the stories from around the world. birds are on...
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is not in a war in pakistan the usa is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen in somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militant that's being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering the information who are doing the investigation to try to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan. that's the hours main news i'll be back with the headlines after a short break stay with us here on our team. welcome to the future of what makes a big splash in the world of high tech business what turns events science into i get you products they don't understand oh he'll teach these is going to be full of russian innovators to ease your meters and broaden and their big breakthrough back home spotlight on startups on technolo
is not in a war in pakistan the usa is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen in somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militant that's being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering the information who...
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is not a war in pakistan the usa is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty and ascend civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering information who are doing the investigation to try to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan that's the main news this hour be back with the headlines after a short break stay with us here on r.t. . twenty years ago in the largest country in. search of places of books. the first six months how did the to cook the chicken adjusts for where did it take i'm. just so. just so. the fox. will come to the folks couldn't see the splash in the world of heights or business questions in advance science you know i just cheap products just don't un
is not a war in pakistan the usa is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty and ascend civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering information who are doing...
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calls pakistan there's an important ally in the war on terror so what's gone wrong . i think we're seeing strong signs off united states getting really frustrated with the situation upon the sun and for the past few days we've seen. we've seen signs and actions on the part of the united states that are really being described by fox and fishers as inmates who are in terms of diplomacy for example we've seen. constant reports in mainstream media in particular in the new york times in the week. really talking about issues that pertain to fox and domestic politics for example the murder of a journalist and we've seen of course admiral mike mullen no less the chairman joint chiefs coming out to actually use the box and intelligence services behind it i mean things that you really wouldn't expect in a relationship as important as this one so i think what we're seeing is that the americans are are now really very first created with the situation in the understand and i think they would like to see the box sort of giving up on some off their positions and just getting in line
calls pakistan there's an important ally in the war on terror so what's gone wrong . i think we're seeing strong signs off united states getting really frustrated with the situation upon the sun and for the past few days we've seen. we've seen signs and actions on the part of the united states that are really being described by fox and fishers as inmates who are in terms of diplomacy for example we've seen. constant reports in mainstream media in particular in the new york times in the week....
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forces into pakistan to do decisively with the taliban and how we're going to network training camps which were the same that the united states were so actively helping and assisting pakistan to wage today and i saw a jihad in afghanistan using the same heading proxy force led trained by pakistani intelligence which was actively supported by their american partners what happens right now in afghanistan is neither war no peace in reality the american occupation he's completely bogged down and it's paralyzed somewhere in the twilight zone between war and peace now the u.s. lawmakers facing a very serious dilemma on the one side they're eager to blackmail pakistan we have the united states military intervention on the other side they are acutely aware that the time has come for the united states to back up and go home from afghanistan and to be exposed to the accusations that american exit plan is just cut and run so the only face saving opportunity right now for the united states to leave afghanistan these to rebuild their credibility gap leave pakistan and to get a permission for u.s.
forces into pakistan to do decisively with the taliban and how we're going to network training camps which were the same that the united states were so actively helping and assisting pakistan to wage today and i saw a jihad in afghanistan using the same heading proxy force led trained by pakistani intelligence which was actively supported by their american partners what happens right now in afghanistan is neither war no peace in reality the american occupation he's completely bogged down and...
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pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget and i know that most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough gamma stand like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has to have institutional backing you touched on this just now i just want to put a bit of meat on the bones of it when off to the killing how realistic is america's ambition to leave a stable afghanistan when nato troops finally depart in twenty fourteen. i think the fact that would happen today shows very clearly that there are two universes really enough gana stand there is the universe that the west knows that outsiders know that the united nations that foreign diplomats the journalists and militaries know and then there is afghan culture that's very very hard for the outs for an outsider to penetrate we do not know what is going on behind the scenes what we do know however is
pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget and i know that most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough gamma stand like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has to have institutional backing you touched on this just now i just want to...
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pakistan relationship has been strained since osama bin laden's killing earlier in may and the u.s. drone attacks that have killed civilians the white house says is a lot about is an important ally in the war on terror but that the relationship must be worked on over time journalist ahmed correctly says the bitterness is going to be tough defense. i don't think we're seeing any signs that the u.s. officials are really sincere about the relationship. as a relationship between two depends on these they would like to work together ten years ago. it was really very hard to find a clean clean shaven buckstone you criticize in the united states it was it was taken for granted if you're criticizing the u.s. you must be some radical extremist but today you have people from the upper classes of pakistan really lead and very very critical of the united states so i think there's something really wrong and i think there is a huge responsibility also on. the u.s. media to convey the right picture to the american public media which is unfortunately they're not doing their very much telling the wh
pakistan relationship has been strained since osama bin laden's killing earlier in may and the u.s. drone attacks that have killed civilians the white house says is a lot about is an important ally in the war on terror but that the relationship must be worked on over time journalist ahmed correctly says the bitterness is going to be tough defense. i don't think we're seeing any signs that the u.s. officials are really sincere about the relationship. as a relationship between two depends on...
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we can stay there if three things happen, pakistan becomes a different country, kari becomes a different man, and obama succeeds in doing nation- building in afghanistan. when i look at that, i say, "where is the ownership?" there is no town in afghanistan that our marines cannot take. is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual circumstances. the question still remains. i am trying to draw a parallel but not an analogy. the int still remains. we have to decide whether or not we will have a worldwide military presence in the sense of actual interference or trying to own situations, political situations, by military means. that this really affects every single thing have spoken about today. >> i agree there will be trade- offs and we will have to face up to that. there's no question. we are the tent pole that holds up the world. i am not sure how comfortable i would be in hawaii if china control the pacific. there is one thing that your questi
we can stay there if three things happen, pakistan becomes a different country, kari becomes a different man, and obama succeeds in doing nation- building in afghanistan. when i look at that, i say, "where is the ownership?" there is no town in afghanistan that our marines cannot take. is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual...
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he's to pakistan and all of us shots from the base. three men convicted of trying to blow up synagogues in new york beach been sentenced to twenty five years in prison but the case has raised controversy. and hundred make bombs critics claim it was a setup but the judge said hands were tied. for nearly a decade the u.s. has waged a widespread global war on terror its required multitasking military effort overseas on the domestic front u.s. officials have decided to double down recently announcing counter-terrorism plants that refocus resources on combat homegrown plots this is the first co-chair of the strategy that focuses on the ability of all played and is that work toward speier people in the united states to attack us from within yet in countless so-called f.b.i. sting operations f.b.i. operative provided the fake c four and actually showed a fake stinger missile the inspiration to attack america has come from a government paid informant working to orchestrate the plan a tactic critics say exercised in a new york case doug new wor
he's to pakistan and all of us shots from the base. three men convicted of trying to blow up synagogues in new york beach been sentenced to twenty five years in prison but the case has raised controversy. and hundred make bombs critics claim it was a setup but the judge said hands were tied. for nearly a decade the u.s. has waged a widespread global war on terror its required multitasking military effort overseas on the domestic front u.s. officials have decided to double down recently...
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pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at that table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough ghana stand like al-qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has to have institutional backing. remember all the stories we're covering are available along with interviews blogs and analysis on r t. online you can also check out latest video footage of a plane a rescue operation only hours after a burning aircraft crash landed on a lake in eastern siberia. here's a reason to look before crossing the street and watch out on these roads a street racer pushes his sports car to the max in central moscow but his need for speed ends in our image. outrage grips of britain over allegations aimed at several newspapers in rupert murdoch's media empire including getting secret information about the queen and former prime minister gordon brown that as senior police of
pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at that table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough ghana stand like al-qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has to have institutional backing. remember all the stories we're covering are available along...
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is not in a war in pakistan the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering the information who are doing the investigation and trying to collect the information so that we can bring a more transparent more honest picture to the public about what's happening in pakistan. all the back with a recap of today's news and this week's main stories in just a few moments if you stay with us here on r.t. . forty two thousand americans die each year from car accidents only a thousand. seven hundred thousand people. and thirty two thousand will kill themselves cancer in all its forms kills five hundred sixty thousand of us here part diseas
is not in a war in pakistan the u.s. it is operating extra legally by carrying out these drone strikes in pakistan in yemen and somalia and in terms of it being disproportionate you know we have numbers coming out of pakistan that indicate that you know for every one suspected militants being killed one hundred forty innocent civilians are dying as a result of these strikes and so if those numbers are correct you know we have people on the ground who are who are gathering the information who...
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of nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the genuine united states of america and its european nato partners. well you can always follow your going to a video blog and of course many other websites. among the stories today you will find here. in france convicted of spying for russia released colleagues convinced that confessions were. the local opposition believed the case has nothing to do with justice all the way from the very start. it was ridiculous for the russian military innovation has. just become a significant asset. the praises of the so-called. morning that. don't. wealthy british style. that's not on the. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with max cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report on our. download the official antti up location on the phone all i pod touch from the choose ops to. watch all she life on the go. video on demand ati's minefield
of nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and afghan leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between the genuine united states of america and its european nato partners. well you can always follow your going to a video blog and of course many other websites. among the stories today you will find here. in france convicted of spying for russia released colleagues convinced that confessions were. the local...
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policy or the lack of faith regarding pakistan and afghanistan no less has been said about the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in libya take a close a look at how the nato air wield bombing in libya is related to american tribe vies in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing in libya could be both the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside it is not just a tune and a half wars for the united states in reality if not on the ground at least in the air over a levy very bombing is one hundred percent nato operation timing off nato operation against libya demonstrated not on the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan and bad leadership it is also indicative of a huge credibility gap between genuine united states of america and its european nato partners. i am observing nature and discover its buzy. least the communicate with the wild under. test yourself and become free and. see what nature can give you an aunty. forty two thousand americans die each year from car accidents only
policy or the lack of faith regarding pakistan and afghanistan no less has been said about the nato operation or actually aerial intervention and bombing in libya take a close a look at how the nato air wield bombing in libya is related to american tribe vies in afghanistan and pakistan on a technical basis yes they nato intervention and indiscriminate bombing in libya could be both the united states and nato operation but technicalities aside it is not just a tune and a half wars for the...
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pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough get to stand like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has had institutional backing. as i was often accuse of links with the taliban in afghanistan and illegal drug trade the head of russia's federal drug control service victor even after a decade of military failures of the coalition forces in the country aren't helping watch his full interview in around ten minutes time but here's a quick preview. of. september we'll see the tenth anniversary of that interference it's longer than world war two but the situation in afghanistan hasn't improved it's become even worse and even senior officials like general petraeus for example commanding a military operation in afghanistan says that the number of armed clashes there increases year after year in fact t
pakistan does not want to watch from the sidelines when pakistan says that there should be direct negotiations between the united states and the taliban what it is also saying is that pakistan wants to be at the table also because don't forget most of your viewers know this the leadership of the taliban is not enough get to stand like al qaeda it is in pakistan it cannot operate there independently it has had institutional backing. as i was often accuse of links with the taliban in afghanistan...
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al-qaida operatives still plot and plan across the border in pakistan. the taliban still try to regain lost ground, still intimidate and still assassinate as we just saw this past week about the brutal killing of president karzai's brother. hamid karzai trying to climb into his brother's grave last week is facing almost daily challenges to his rule. his brother was assassinated by a trusted bodyguard. a former governor and loyal political adviser to karzai was assassinate ned his apartment by two taliban gunman wearing bomb belts. >> in crushing heat and in numbing cold from the deserts of southern afghanistan to the peaks of the behind due kush. you have shown initiative, determination, innovative necessary and courage. you have been diplomats as well as warriors, statesman as well as soldiers. your performance as been in a word awesome. >> reporter: general petraeus handed over his command to marine general john allen. petraeus will retire from the army and particular over as the head of the cia in september. >> there will be tough days ahead. and i ha
al-qaida operatives still plot and plan across the border in pakistan. the taliban still try to regain lost ground, still intimidate and still assassinate as we just saw this past week about the brutal killing of president karzai's brother. hamid karzai trying to climb into his brother's grave last week is facing almost daily challenges to his rule. his brother was assassinated by a trusted bodyguard. a former governor and loyal political adviser to karzai was assassinate ned his apartment by...
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in pakistan. the us is within reach of defeating al qaida and eliminating ten to twenty top militants will cripple the group for good that was the statement from the new us defense chief leon panetta and his military contributor he's getting who shall believe the shell's banana's taken to the post with a clear vision of the threats facing the us. for every pentagon observer there reasons always a special moment when the result change of guard at the puzzle palace as the pentagon is widely known in a narrow circle of professionals so it was the particular event. has reincarnating in his new capacity as the military chief during his first interview in his new capacity he pointed to the troika all of them multiple challenges to the united states national security emanating from pakistan yemen and somalia he is clear cut vision deserves full support both within and outside the united states it was just a pity that some of the u.s. media commissariat try to spoiled his new vision when after the meeting
in pakistan. the us is within reach of defeating al qaida and eliminating ten to twenty top militants will cripple the group for good that was the statement from the new us defense chief leon panetta and his military contributor he's getting who shall believe the shell's banana's taken to the post with a clear vision of the threats facing the us. for every pentagon observer there reasons always a special moment when the result change of guard at the puzzle palace as the pentagon is widely known...